Thursday, May 12, 2016

READY THE FAINTING COUCH: Women Deacons to be Considered?



(Pope) Francis said May 12 he agreed the matter should be given more careful consideration, telling hundreds of nuns from around the world that he himself always wondered about the role of deaconesses in the early church. - See more at: https://sojo.net/articles/pope-francis-lets-consider-idea-ordaining-women-deacons#sthash.M3s6ALOo.dpuf






34 comments:

  1. Wow! Great news and about time that it is discussed.
    The reaction will be a riot. Pass the popcorn.
    Mundy is so stunned that he stopped in mid-fap.

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    1. A Commission spent five years considering this very topic, ending in 2002.

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    2. Sounds like that they are going to consider it again.

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  2. Waiting for Zagano, redux...

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  3. Lacy-boy is in a snit over it. ("much ado about nothing") (Take THAT Pope Francis!)
    Lacy-boy is very upset that he knew nothing about before it appeared in the media. ( I thought that he was so wired in to the "inner Vatican".)
    He may not even talk about it again. So THERE! (hair toss)

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    1. I think the question is less "ordination" and more the clerical state. There are "clerical privileges" but there are no ordination privileges, only the duty of making Christ known to the world in each particular ordained ministry. Who said on this blog a while back "only bishops should be clerics." Yet even with the grace of the fullness of the priesthood, they have difficulty being "clerics".

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    2. He is already talking about it again.

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    3. Interesting that the talk was delivered to Religious. It might be a good start to pull all
      Religious out of the "clerical" state and see how that goes--no clerical privileges just Diaconal or Priestly Ministry. Sort of like Why do you need the clerical state in religious life in the first place?

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    4. Interesting that the talk was delivered to Religious. It might be a good start to pull all
      Religious out of the "clerical" state and see how that goes--no clerical privileges just Diaconal or Priestly Ministry. Sort of like Why do you need the clerical state in religious life in the first place?

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    5. Non-ordained religious do not have clerical status. What are you talking about?

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    6. I am talking about ordained religious--ordain men Religious, priests or deacons, without clerical "status."

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    7. Interesting. Without clerical status for Religious a lot of the old time, general, one size fits all clerics bullshit would be out, even facial expressions!. You would either be a Franciscan or Mercedarian or a "fake" Franciscan or Edmundite, and no one would be required by convention to give you a break--no preferential treatment might even be written into their Constitutions. (When invited to dinner at a restaurant send a single parent with their children instead--or in case of emergency and you have to go yourself, work the Blues Brothers scam. Note Zed: The Blues Brothers are not a religious congregation.

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    8. "clericalism" doesn't involve clerics anymore. Who would dare contradict the former nun who runs the diocesan liturgy office?

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  4. I love Pope Francis but I do wonder at times like this if he's simply trolling the rad-trads.

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    1. Anonymous, they deserved to be fraternally chastized for their Evil works.

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  5. Hey Fr D. Bloggers up my neck of the woods in Canada are staring to get in a snit Over it

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    1. Well, with universal health care, I'm sure they can get some valium or haldol in extreme kases of the krazies.

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  6. I do like watching the Traddies come unglued, yet again.

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  7. As the old line goes: I don't know what the problem with women's ordination is, the church has always had priests without balls...

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  8. Here's an excerpt from the darling Babs' latest missive on the convert Orthodox who try to be more Orthodox than the Orthodox. The same could easily apply to the Z, Rorate Caelis, Mundabore and the Public Works fellow amongst others.

    "This is just as true of any of the Orthodox “home nationalities”. Don’t attend to the jumped-up frauds on the internet. They have nothing to offer you (nor to anyone else, for that matter). Leave those like Rod Dreher and John Whiteford alone; let them bloviate and engage in their loud, vain, and fruitless spiritual masturbation. Don’t engage them, don’t frequent their online ruminations, and don’t let their empty chatter pervert your thinking. "


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  9. Mundabore, women religious have been doing the heavy lifting in the church for centuries... You are as ignorant a slut as Zuhlsdorf.

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  10. The Supreme Douche NoZZle is in DC. Is he leaching room and board at a rectory or religious house? Oh, that's right, just a room since he ties on the feed bag at local three plus star restaurants compliments of the zombies.

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    1. Zed is traveling a lot lately. A lot of cleaning supplies and bogus religious goods needs to be disposed of. Also looking for seminarian help to work the scam.

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  11. Once the traddies die down, we'll get to watch the NCR crowd when they realize it isnt happening.

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    1. When what isn't happening? I have virtually no opinion on the ordination of women, not an issue I care about. But, I think women deacons in the Catholic Church is already a done deal.

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  12. It's quite obscene how Fr Zed openly and habitually craves the title of Monsignor. And for what? An expert on tradition? He recently described Prince-Archbishop Colloredo of Salzburg as a cardinal, not knowing that the archbishop of Salzburg is entitled, like the patriarch of Venice, to wear red choir attire.

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  13. Z is showing off his tiny plate of food at the National Catholic Prayer breakfast. He thinks Catholics are cheapies with their tiny bowl of fruit and mini muffin.

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  14. I notice that Z has recently been taking advantage of his right to wear monsignor like robes since he was ordained by a pope in S. Peter's. Alas he does not have the right to the title.

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  15. And don't forget sucking up to the "next Pope". (Check out the pic with Cardinal Sarah.)
    One of the minions wants him to take a scissors to Cardinal Sarah's clothes and save them for relics.
    Why not just follow him into the toilet and save his urine sample?

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  16. Hey, why not just cut a piece of hair or his nails or something? Wouldn't these be higher class relics than a piece of his clothes?

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  17. Why does Zero want to be a Monsignor so badly? Is there a pay raise involved? Also, I thought Pope Francis put a stop to making priests monsignors so why does Zzz keep up his fantasy?

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  18. It amuses me that the same people that want Cardinal Sarah to be Pope would have a fit if he moved into the house next door to them.

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