Tuesday, April 12, 2016

BEATEN DOWN AND BATTERED?

Are feeling beaten down and battered by too much mercy and love lately?
I'm not.
I'm feeling inspired by it actually.
I've just begun reading and digesting the post  synodal exhortation. Why must they be so long?
I'm not going spout off until I'm done reading it.
Anyone read all of it yet?

The Krazy Konverts seem to be having koniptions as expected. 
More later.
Maybe.

155 comments:

  1. Yes. I have read it. (and should re-read it every once in a while.)
    It is a well-written document. Welcoming and friendly. Nice, warm tone.
    He tries to cover miles of territory.
    All of the drama from Lacy-boy was predictable. He clearly hates Pope Francis. He has encouraged his readers to ignore everything about this document.

    Pope Francis even mentions Lacy-boy in A.L. . He calls him a "pompous pimple on the complexion of life".

    (He-he....just kidding.)

    Seriously, though, I do not know how anyone can get mad about anything in the document. It would be like getting angry with Santa Claus.

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  2. Mickens has the wood on the clerical sub culture inhabited by Ferals and scavengers like Lacy Boy and the Ponces:

    “This type of cleric (and the enabling clericalist lay people that continue to put priests on a pedestal) will be of little help in implementing the vision Pope Francis has unveiled in Amoris Laetitia. And by the looks and sounds of things it doesn't seem like the seminaries — at least here in Rome and in most places in the United States — offer much hope of changing that any time soon.”

    http://www.ncronline.org/blogs/roman-observer/who-will-bring-forth-pope-francis-vision




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    1. Why would the young want to inherit that down, beaten and battered Catholicism of the old days, other than like Zed get ordained and up your social status--traveling and dining and inane conversation. I believe that's where reality TV got it's idea from. And all this bullshit knocking the pope and certain bishops--if you do what the Mainline Protestants did in the 50's folks might think you went to Harvard.

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    2. .....enabling clericist lay people that continue to put (2nd Order priests, not bishops) on a pedestal. But on the other hand it is a good scam to tag lonely seminarian and young priests with. Once they accept your gifts of money and in kind, you can call in your marker. Like pretend you need pastoral counseling.

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    3. In ghetto Catholicism the priest was hot shit. Now he is just one more Anglo M.F. among many. Got to earn your balls like anyone else.

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    4. Yea. That is the part of old time hockey Zed and his ilk don't get. Secularists will only hate you if you got balls; but will lead you down the primrose path if you are a bullshit artist.

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  3. The Apostolic Exhortation is filled with divisive, heretical ideas such as, "be nice to each other" and "try to be considerate of other people's situations and withhold judgement". You know, all of that "love" stuff.
    We CANNOT have that !!!
    Can we get through the day without hating a bogeyman?

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  4. They attempt to penetrate the spiritual world by taking the "old ways" and making it a some 1950's clerical based spiritism. In reality Zed is on the point of becoming a visionary--then the cash will just flow in.

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    1. Up, Down, Up, Up, Down,Down. Man, you don't have to be an FBI Profiler to know when he is in the manic phase.

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    2. The new Zed Head logo will be "Wild Woody" (Woodpecker.)
      It is a mystery that his so-called priest friends only give him lunch and gas money and have a important appointment within the hour.

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    3. As the FBI scam homepage says, "If it's too good to be true, it probably is."

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  5. Strange.
    I did not come away from reading Pope's letter "beaten", "demoralized", "confused" or "frustrated".
    What in the hell is wrong with me?

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    1. I'm so inspired that I want to stop saying nasty stuff about Z, but I strongly believe that a presence standing opposed to him is necessary and in fact good.

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  6. What surprises me is how Father Z is downplaying the significance of an apostolic exhortation while in the buildup to this he was ranting about how the synod would undo another apostolic exhortation of Pope John Paul II from 1981. Cardinal Burke seems to think that the document isn't authoritative because the footnotes are to the Synodal document. It's authoritative because it comes from Francis and is an apostolic exhortation. Can you imagine anyone questioning the authority of an apostolic exhortation from Pope Benedict or Pope John Paul II? Under those two popes you never heard mention of levels of church teaching or the assent expected of them. Now the right can't speak of it enough. Frustrating!

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    1. But remember, Kevin O, this is Lacy-boy and he hates Pope Francis.
      It isn't frustrating when you consider the source.

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  7. "Can you imagine anyone questioning the authority of an apostolic exhortation from Pope Benedict or Pope John Paul II? Under those two popes you never heard mention of levels of church teaching or the assent expected of them. Now the right can't speak of it enough."

    yep, it's pretty angering.

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  8. Father D you have so much patience and must be a scholar. I have already blown off Francis' doc without reading the whole thing. I mean the best you can say is it pushes the argument forward on sex issues with baby steps. In the meantime the world is, at least in the west, decades ahead. Francis' church still seems weighed down with structures and the mentality that maintained the roman catholic doctrinally correct..."the earth is the center of the universe." Sorry, Sun!

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  9. Wilbur and the Canonical Equine, Mr Ed are back doing the customary moralizing tut tuts for the benefit of the lobotomized:

    Dr. Edward Peters says:
    12 April 2016 at 5:19 PM
    More canonical gravitas and moralistic neighs from Neddy:

    "I don’t think the import of AL fn. 329 has quite sunk in yet."

    Yes, Neddy, well said, but Lacy Boy gets to do the redactional clincher in red:

    [It’s spectacular misuse of GS 51 sure has, at least with me and those who are paying attention. HERE]

    Dr. Edward Peters says:
    12 April 2016 at 5:54 PM

    "Yes, well, I meant, among my fellow mortals, Pater." says Mr Ed with a nose bag full of chaff strung around his ears.

    The ontologically superior Wilbur retorts in a blizzard of rouge colored invective:

    [“But Father! But Father!”, some gushy wide-eyed libs are squirting, “misuse, you say, of VATICAN II? By the only Pope who has ever smiled? You… YOU… YOU HATE VATICAN II.” No, I’m not the one who hates Vatican II.]"

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    1. I knew I saw a similiar rouge colored invective some place else. Zed plagiarized them from the pastoralaxe.com site. Hack, Hack, Hack.

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    2. What he is asking the lone seminarian for is a 1980's scam. Works like this. Use my blog for a footnote; if you get a lousy grade, the prof is a Kasperite; report him to the bishop, dean, rector and uncle frank and aunt edith,(who by the way might drop a few ballons at the sem.) We (Zeds) will back you all the way with our clout. The kind of clout lay people only dream of, and are awed and mystified of. (P.S. If you find you are still in shit, start dropping names in the Dean's office, and if that don't work start a blog.)

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  10. Meanwhile at the Reg, a certain Opus Dei Father C.J. McCloskey is going on about menmenmalemen, a topic dear I'm sure to the Zedsters.

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  11. Just one moment! John Paul I had a pleasant smile too.

    Also, he was the first to abandon that hideous tiara which Fr Z so longingly wants back.

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  12. Has anyone heard from The Merkin? I wonder if he ever found that gaggle of interns he was after.

    Also, Zildo would be working, but the Airship is having electrical problems:

    I will be able to visit the Met again soon, during an enforced exile from The Cupboard Under The Stairs. The Powers That Be are shutting down the power that is for some four days, and so I have to take a hike. I’m heading to NYC for R&R.

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  13. Brass Ass, mentor of the Surging Seminarian, give his charge a spray of the rouge:

    Lacy:[This adds a dimension that is IMPORTANT for SEMINARIANS! PAY ATTENTION! Do I have your FULL attention?]

    Lacy Boy talking about the huge chunk of the Curriculum he missed through expulsions: " When seminarians study marriage and sexual ethics and encounter Amoris Laetitia in the classroom they will know what to think about it in advance, thanks to faithful bishops, theologians and bloggers!"
    Lacy Boy justifying his sine-cure existence of inertia, entropy and general lizard brain idiocy: [This is a key to our future.]
    "AL actually makes bishops more impotent the more they embrace the Kasper Proposal because they will only be able to huff and puff about it (see Archbishop Blase Cupich of Chicago!). But priests are free to follow the Church’s teaching as expressed in Familiaris Consortio 84, teaching that was not formally changed by AL."

    The Lard Ass declares victory and retires to the bank-o-meter and the single malt: [That’s a WIN, friends.]

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    1. If you know what to think in advance then there is no need to attend a regular seminary. Fr. Zed's 6 month Seminary Course is available on line: Spend part of the morning at a religious goods store flashing on people (Liturgical Goods 385), hang out in the back of churches (Liturgy 101) till lunch at a chosen preassigned rectory (Note much research skills needed here) while discussing "theology" that everyone knows already. (Advanced Pastoral Counseling 338). 1st afternoon session dry run Advanced Visiting People Who Will Back my Vocation 437. (Name drop dead pagan Latin authors) 2nd period Vestment Comparison--4th Theology Only. Beginning Visiting and Blogging & Texting-- 2nd Theology.

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    2. You forgot:
      "Consuming vast quantities of all types of food at expensive restaurants that your donors cannot afford to dine at....and how to do it on the DONOR's money."

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    3. What about pig roasts and tap dancing?
      They must be extracurricular.

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    4. Expulsions. Unfortunately that was before the ruling by US Council of Catholic Bishops, that, previous seminary entrants must make that fact known if they attempt to enter a different seminary at another time and place. .......on the other hand Zed was matriculated by the Italians and/or could always use I didn't understand the question completely in Italian, since it is so close to 4th century Latin. (See Souter's Glossary)

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    5. Restaurant selection, Cash-O-Meter construction and credit card machine wiring can be taken as extra credit during the summer months,if and when all tuition and fees have been paid.

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    6. It is a great course!! I was amazed that changing any theological subject to Vestments, Minor Orders and 1950's hair styles has given me the confidence to convert others outside my immediate family. As Zed wrote in my personal acceptance letter, after giving him my Visa number, our seminary's motto: "Most people just concede after seeing our intransigence."

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    7. Speaking of Vestments. Zed has his latest from Gamarelli's (it brings back memories of my cinema class when we were viewing French Surrealists). It's the new Adam's Family Collection. It is said Peter Cushing and Christopher Lee have at times contributed ideas to the collection.

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    8. Thanks for the plug!
      P.S. Wishlist: Mountain Ash and S. Maclain Brand Stethoscope.

      Professor Abraham Van Helsing M.D., D.Ph., D.Litt

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  14. Miss Zuhlsdorf... You are a pathetic caricature of a man attempting to be a priest. Not sure who to feel more sorry for, the decent believers you've scammed by substituting paying you in lieu of supporting the Church and Christ's work or you, yourself, you pathetic quivering lard pile.

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    1. Macelo;

      That was right out of Peter Lorre's diatribe against the fat man (Sidney Greenstreet) in the Maltese falcon!!
      Great!!

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    2. What does Lorre say,"you bloated idiot, you fathead!"

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    3. Maybe this was a subliminal memory of the Maltese Falcon... Anyhow I'm at work in my own area of "influence" to get supporters to contact their bishops to prevail on Z's enablers. A major Catholic contributor (one of my clients) finds Z "childishly disrespectful" saying that just because we're liberals we don't have to turn the other cheek EVERY time.

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    4. He is his own worst enemy. He pretends to have "friends" all over the place. Yet the so-called friends know they are not friends and anticipate his real friends will set him up with a good counselor. And I imagine anyone taking a chance explaining the reality of the situation will have the tables turned on them and be questioned as if THEY needed help. (which might end, "if the coin clinks in the coffer the problem flies away").

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    5. You can tell Zed was taking Sacristy Cupboard Arranging 201 (matches and EMPTY wine bottles)one semester and 202 (catafalque repair)in another instead of Christology.
      By the way, does anyone know who was teaching Christology in Zed's "seminary", or the renaissance fair, or cooking for religious houses course, he attended, at the time he supposedly attended, whatever he supposedly attended. He seems to keep that part secret, only speaking about the witness protection program he was in at the Vatican.

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    6. I hope you are not suggesting that Zed's entire empire is nothing more that a sting operation to suck in an unsuspecting vestment supplier with a dubious past? Zed's not smart enough for that--like who would trust him, with a scam that's not written down somewhere. More likely a vestment supplier and/or manufacturer could, with Zagano's connections, got the goods on him.

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    7. "an unsuspecting vestment supplier with a dubious past?"

      Certainly you don't mean Pax House of Mexico?

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    8. Mexico? Runs out of New York. Acapulco Gold Brand.

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    9. Enablers. That's it enablers. But what is the scam? Are the enablers jammed up between Paul VI who said the ordinations were invalid and JPII who said they were. Can't wait for a Synod to address that question! That will be the day when the Counter Reformation formally ends, and Vatican II really begins.

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    10. Enablers. Not the 1950's but the 1930's.

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    11. Zed's in New York now. Van Helsing clandestine meeting with Christopher Lee and three members of a Melkite motorcycle club.

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  15. The latest from Zippity Do-Nothing:
    "I still have a pressing personal petition. Really."
    MadCity is kicking him out of the dorms for a week while they turn off the power? Is that a hint? In the summer, they might experience "problems" with the air conditioning and watch him sweat through his tactical clerics.

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  16. Mr Ed, the Canonical clip, clop talking equine inadvertently subverts Lacy Boy's Latin pretences re Amoris Laetitia:

    1. Dr. Edward Peters says:
    18 April 2016 at 4:34 PM

    "I am still trying to sort out the real Latin version of Paul VI’s Credo of the People of God. Long story omitted. Maybe this summer. It’s on my desk now."

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    1. He must be lonely, fish(wrapping)ing for a syncophant to stop in and say, "I was thinking for translating Paul VI's Latin version Credo of the people of God into 4th century Latin. Do you have any suggestions?" Rev. Dr. Professor sounds like an oblique imitation of Zed, by a high school substitute teacher,with musical pretentions.

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    2. That what he really sounds like. The more banal you sound the more folks will think you are a lawyer. He is stuck. Working a goody two shoes scam, he latched on to a EU continental syncophant and now has to pay the price. He thought being banal was a requirement for advancement.

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  17. Z is using the question about Holy Communion on the Space Station to remind people that they really don't have to receive Communion but once a year...and of course Catholic astronauts are dispensed from their Sunday duty. Does this mean if people colonize a planet like Mars (something that several groups are working) they will be exempted from everything? Why does he always want to make participation in the sacraments (except confession) seem so unimportant?

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    1. Zed missed that class too, but instead took it upon himself to read more Jansenist pamphlets (he is really self taught) in the chancery waiting room to file another complaint.

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  18. Confession is the ultimate guilt control toy for the UberKlerik Brass Ass. His flummery in that regard has about the same weight as the rest of the tripe he rattles off about Sacraments.

    He was poorly catechised during his 'conversion' period, he had little or no interest/capacity for serious philosophy and theology study and the Sacramental validity of his 'ordination' lends itself to serious question on the grounds both of his own intentions and the matter of 'for whom was he "ordained"?'

    Lacy Boy remains a pre-Reformation clone of Luther: sin, guilt, confession were tortures for Luther; they are a cash cow for the grasping materialist Lard. That's really the only thing he knows and, sadly I think, values.

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  19. Zzzzz is whining again that liberals do not have a sense of humor. It is one of his recurring themes over the years.
    He says, "They [Liberals] don’t laugh because they consider themselves morally superior."
    If that isn't a perfect description of Zzzz and his followers, I don't know what is. His sense of moral superiority just reeks.

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    1. To turn what he calls liberals into something super human is what he desires for himself, but is somehow out of reach. He wants what every lifer in prison wants, "to get high and to get over".

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    2. ........a certain determinism that explains away the responsibility for the doer of the deed. Thus, join the "winning" side.

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    3. ..."WORLDLESS." Makes humanity outside the "clerical" state superfluous.

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    4. ..the world of 1950's hair styles. "Tis a darlin grave".

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    5. "liberals do not have a sense of humor"

      not so. i read his blog and i laugh and laugh and laugh.

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  20. Z so far up himself, he can brush his teeth from the inside.

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  21. In case the photo (see link) didn't have enough:

    "More Men"---->

    http://wdtprs.com/blog/2016/04/bless-our-families-bless-our-children-choose-from-our-homes-those-who-are-needed-for-thy-work/

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    1. Zed is the one who fakes the laugh, fakes the life. He attempts to demythologize the secondary aspects of the old ways, yet cannot understand why they are so attractive. He is caught between being captured by it's beauty and frightened by it's dark spell. So-called liberals understand somewhat, for they too have been adolescents at some time.

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    2. Zed's sense of reality is becoming even more static. When anyone "wakes up" they become immediately liberated, conservative, Zed heads or whatever. This Zedness is so straightforward it bypasses growth, making healing and renewal unnecessary .

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  22. Did Fr. Z. inspire this reform of the reform priest to add explosives to the Easter Vigil to get rid of the zombies who fell asleep during the liturgy? https://www.facebook.com/100001954624597/videos/1070383886370089/

    There must have been a line for the bathroom in this church after this happened. Remember to check your own drawers after watching.

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  23. Mikie V comes out of the closet on his Vortex(04/21/2016)....as a reformed gay man.....not surprised with that hair doo....lets hope this will make all the other krazy klerics in fiddle backs do the same...then all those ladies in their white lace veils realize that...ummmm now i know why these dudes wear those lace surplus.....

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    1. Missy Voris !?!?!?....GAY!!!!!
      And in other news, water is wet.

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    2. Anon-1:13...that is very funny. But this is news..seems like his gaggle of boys who live with him must have been up all night deleting the negative comments because I was reading some and then..... magic..they seem to disappear...one comment wanted to see proof that the ArchNY was doing what he said they were doing....or was an old porno movie he did back in the day was going to be posted by the ex boyfriend that left him for another man, that started him on his conversion ( a woman scorned the saying goes)....so he needed to blame +Dolan...or maybe +Burke broke up with him. We all know that Burke was/is his Rabbi..bought his tickets to Rome and put him up in the velvet fringed sling in his Cardinal Apt.for the meetings on the family...
      I want to see how the other far right bloggers take up this story...his last year GayPride rant to St Francis Church..All are Welcomed...his hate for the Church of Nice...his... the gay parade St. Patty bs...is biting his lying ass for all to see..Ive never been one to enjoy vengeance...but in the words of Sophia Patrillo....this tickles me

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    3. The right-wing blogs will be effusively supportive of him because he mimics their hatred......for a SHORT while. Then the worm will turn. If there is one thing that they do NOT like, it is someone who is LGB or T. Even a self-proclaimed "chaste" one.
      He will see his financial support start to dwindle, his pseudo-mommy, bouncer-at-the-door, fag-hag will ditch him and have to get a real job and he will become one more disappearing act in the blogosphere.

      P.S. I cannot wait to see what psycho-Mundabor says about him. That should be rich.

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    4. Is Doris the next Father Corrupti?
      Will Zildo give Doris the damnatio memoriae?
      Will Doris ever hold another casting call for strapping young lads?
      Sex tape? Isn't that supposed to launch your celebrity career these days?

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    5. "Sex Tape" ? Of Michael Voris ?
      Eeeek! I will pass on viewing that one. Not enough eye bleach in town to erase that vision.

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    6. I still want a Fr. Big D sex tape :-P

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  24. Voris claims the NY archdiocese is about to expose him. Any idea what that's about?
    http://www.churchmilitant.com/video/episode/limiting-god

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  25. Cui bono? Maybe it's an anti-homophobia outing.
    "The Archdiocese of New York has said it is “absolutely, 100 per cent untrue” that it was preparing to smear the Catholic journalist Michael Voris."

    http://www.catholicherald.co.uk/news/2016/04/22/new-york-archdiocese-denies-allegation-that-it-sought-to-smear-michael-voris/

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  26. Miss Zuhlsdorf, I pray daily for the salvation of those who suffer from the unnatural attraction to the notion that sending you money is a substitute for doing the real work of Christ.

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    1. Marcelo, you are right on again.
      Hegel rightly pointed out that where magic is believed in, not everyone is allowed to practice it. Special individuals are chosen on account of their superior knowledge of the formulae, methods of operation, etc.

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  27. No surprises at all from the dissembling, contortionist Lard. In a classic piece of faux altruistic concern with a huge dollop of self-serving apologia, Lacy Boy demonstrates once more what a monumentally conceited fraud he really is:

    Fr. Z’s thoughts on Michael Voris’ public statement
    Posted on 22 April 2016 by Fr. John Zuhlsdorf

    "Michael Voris recently released a public statement about his past and about his conversion.

    I don’t entirely understand the circumstances or timing of this statement.

    My thoughts.

    We constantly pray for sinners to convert and we say we are happy when they do!

    I am impressed with Michael’s courage in making a public statement. I hope that others who carry the terrible burden of certain attractions will take his example to heart and make changes in their lives whatever the sacrifice that might entail.

    Michael clearly loves the Church and is laying it all on the line. Even when I disagree with either a position he takes (he’s wrong about fulfilling your Mass obligation at an SSPX chapel) or the style of its expression (his public tone about some figures such as Card. Dolan has been too ascerbic whatever the issue he might raise), he deserves continued attention and support both in prayer and for his work."

    Now take a scroll down to the next post which deals with his favourite topics: himself, himself as victim and his gluttony.

    Mundabor has out-performed his psycho-self with a rationalization and self justification routine of Olympian proportions.

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  28. Lacy-boy gave a tepid endorsement of Voris, but left enough wiggle room to elbow his way up to Cardinal Dolan to kiss his ring without getting slapped. If it is between the Cardinal and Voris, it's bye-bye Michael.
    Lacy-boy fired the first volley to the minions. Do not get TOOOOO supportive of Voris. Never know what is going to be coming around that next corner. And, after all, an ontological superior being cannot afford to look foolish when the chips are down.
    Mundy and the rest are in "if I trash this guy now, then I will look foolish" mode.
    Give it time. They will drop him like a hot rock.

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  29. And out of the 1000 plus comment, at Church Militant about this issue, there is not one that is negative.
    That isn't the least suspicious, is it? ;)

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    1. My comment is still languishing in 'awaiting moderation' limbo.

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    2. Wow! This comment of mine, merely a quote from an article in the Catholic Herald, was 'REMOVED' from the Church Militant website:

      ""The Archdiocese of New York has said it is “absolutely, 100 per cent untrue” that it was preparing to smear the Catholic journalist Michael Voris.""

      and underneath I provided the URL: http://www.catholicherald.co.uk/news/2016/04/22/new-york-archdiocese-denies-allegation-that-it-sought-to-smear-michael-voris/

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  30. To mention Voris upfront at all is Zed's way of distancing himself. He has performed the "ritual" but his intention is primary. "I'm sorry, you know how things are, but if you need anything just let me know."

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  31. But there's more. Lard Ass, on Day 2 of his My-View-for-awhile-Exile-tour of Gotham City, gives his $2 bill patristic typology a work over. Now he depicts himself as the figurative personification of Israel in Exile. Another flight into the constructed world of delusion, self-exultation and idolatry.
    Another spread of 'lean days' are ahead, if you get my drift.

    "So… the visit is off to a good start.

    Meanwhile, I am now cut off from the Mother Ship (my network back at the Cupboard Under The Stairs). The Powers That Be have severed the power that was. The power that will be won’t be for several days. So, I am on my own, wandering… in exile. Dante, also an exile, uses various images for exile in his Divine Comedy. He mentions how the bread is salty, which means that he is not in his native Florence where bread is unsalted… an vile, in my opinion. I detest the bread in Florence. He also mentions that the steps are hard to climb. Once you have trod familiar steps a thousand times, you do so without thinking, even when they are uneven. Here, however, its just lots of stairs in an out of subway stations. Exile… I struggle along. Don’t worry about me. I’ll be okay.

    Now, it’s off to meet a friend for lunch. The bread will have salt."


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  32. Before the comment is deleted:

    Atra Dicenda, Rubra Agenda says:
    22 April 2016 at 10:53 AM
    So much delicious meat on a Friday. Was the pastrami cut Beef brisket or Beef plate?

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  33. The underlying pathologies of Lacy Boy, his 'priest friend', the surging seminarians and the Sycophant inner circle were exposed and identified by Pope Francis last November in an address to bishops and clergy:

    'The Pope told clergy that they must think twice when a young man “is too confident, rigid and fundamentalist”. Hence, his invitation to them to beware when admitting candidates to the seminary: “There are mentally ill boys who seek strong structures that can protect them”, such as “the police, the army and the clergy”.’

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    1. ........there must be some dioceses that do not use psychological testing. It's getting too tough, either psychological breakdowns, or "adios" after a few years for the strong structure and "protect me" candidates. (Zed will protect you!) Years ago Rev. Goofy (as a Pet Raccoon), could be a clerical cleric in some office forever or spend 50 years as an associate pastor. Now all you have is blogging.

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    2. What's wrong with blogging priests? What do you expect us to do? Visit people in nursing homes or prisons instead of more important ecumenical (bothering) relations with Eastern Catholic priests and talk about the old days of Latinization? Besides Nursing Homes have dietary regs that don't allow beef brisket!

      Rev. J.K. Goofy

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    3. Yea. Zed never talks about all the crap the Latin's gave to the Eastern Catholic Churches, that might increase donations for them. No, No! Let's keep that under our hats for now until we get what we want, they we will give you all you want. (Chump!)

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    4. Sometimes wonder if any non-agenda Catholics read Zed at all. It appears merely a training course for 2 of the most dangerous types of persons--ex-Catholics and ex-smokers. Sort of a "I'm Ok your Ok," self-help, 1980's scam for those who thought Vatican II was a international substitute for "Father sez." The Beatles were there in 1970 but they didn't hear--Get back, Get back, get back to where you once belonged. (Sweet Loretta Zuhlsdorf thought she was an EF, but she was just another Novus Ordo--without training).

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    5. 1980"s Springsteen: "EF days, they'll pass you by EF days, in the wink of a N.O. eye."

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    6. 70's Temptations: "It was just my Extraordinary Minister, running away from me."

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    7. Forget the Beatles. I am working on my Polka Mass and will shortly have Mr. Ed translate it into 4th century Latin. SPOILER ALERT!: "I don't want her, you can have her she too Zed for me, Hey!, she's to Zed for me. Hey! she's too Zed for me."

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    8. Zed will distance himself from Eastern Catholics, some bullshit reason or another or delete any reference from the non-Italian Milan and Tridentine society. Und ve ist der realum priestum, (trans. Not named on the CACApants.com homepage.)

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  34. Miss Zuhlsdorf, you ignoranus, you stupid slut: generations past of the Faithful were inspired by saints in the church. Sts. Cosmos and Damian and the memory of them are undeserving of your crude arrogant characterization of their statuary monuments as kitschy. Kitschy is an Art Deco coffee table... Kitchy is a weirdo like you getting dressed in silk and lace thinking you're worshipping God...

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  35. .......he just doesn't like the Martyrs Cosmos and Damian, they were physicians who accepted NO payment and by that attracted many to the faith. And without cash Zed thinks they spent more time in a library than an restaurant.

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    1. agree entirely. he fears those who are not mercenary. a while back i posted a post that suggested that one of Z's motives is to subsume the priesthood under market forces. christian exemplars such as cosmas and damian are a threat to that ideology.

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    2. ....imagining it's just practice for evangelizing all sorts of non-believing billionaires over the dinner table. BTW: Be wary of billionaires who hang out in religious goods stores.

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  36. I don't understand why there's a kneejerk, kid-gloved reaction to the Merkin's Confessions. Some bloggers are saying 'play in the mud' and that we ought to give this man time and space for him to come to some self-understanding or something...
    But that's not what Merkin's doing at all and clearly so!. That may be what we HOPE someone does but the Merkin only filled us in (ahem) in order to protect his business! It's not playing in the mud to call out deception and grandiose delusions.

    Doris doubles down on Dolan!
    What inspired the Merkin's 'confession'? Not the Good News - he makes that clear - but a rumored outing by shadowy forces in ArchNY, a practice that Doris himself viciously employs. Far from a witness to God's mercy, he makes clear that this is just another chapter from Contra Dolan, a wannabe-magesterial tome on buttsex. Oh, and "God gave Mom stomach cancer so I would have this important, public position." Now who's wallowing 'in the mud'? Doris isn't taking stock of his life; he's taking stock of his business and his ego.

    A curious thing about Church Militant's comment scrubbing:
    After checking out other comment forums, I have noticed that many of those who have had their CM comments deleted are supporters and subscribers to CM, some of whom have angrily asked for their money back. Clearly, they view homosexuality more than just another sin but something like a contagious disease (No surprise, that's precisely the image forcefully advanced by CM itself).

    Exact quote: "I lived a horrible life and would be in Hell had I been killed before returning to the Faith."
    What must he think of, well, most other human beings on this planet? This is way beyond "Am I gay?"

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  37. I have notice, like you, that the responses from the usual suspects are uniformly of the cognitive dissonance genre, oscillating somewhere between implied subterranean rage, expressions of betrayal and the pietistic ho-hum of the prodigal's return.
    The most honesty who make it past the Stalinist censorship are naming the whole show a disaster for the far right's scatter gun hate campaign against the Gay-Lesbian lobby. Some are even insightful enough to realise that the 'liberals' will now dine out even more generously on the old charge that the conservative who spray the most vitriol at the gays are perhaps themselves duplicitous closet inverts. I would not be at all be surprised that this is so with Lacy Boy who went very quietly into the Gotham nights on this one.
    After years of serving up the 'faggot' narrative, electronic rags like Mundabor, the Toxic Weed etc have discovered their very own brand of moral relativism and selective 'mercy.'
    It's no wonder the lot of them did the 'moving right along' routine rather quickly and refocused their pathologies on Francis, Islam and anything that deflects attention away from themselves and their dysfunctionality.

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    1. ....good point. Wag the Dog. If someone has enough cash and knows a good Italian Private Eye, you could get a minor curial official to leak that reinstatement of tonsure and the clerical state is just around the corner. Especially now with everyone worried about finding his name on the suspect.com homepage.

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    2. "It's no wonder the lot of them did the 'moving right along' routine"

      i just visited mundabor and saw this: one post of the "i commend your conversion, you pervert" genre and then right back to bashing Francis

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  38. Good point! Stalinist censorship. ANY slight fluctuations on the screen such as variations in "suspect" clothing, music banal jargon, and the latest "5 year" (2 month) plan is counterrevolutionary and must be dealt with--that is unless you do a purge.

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  39. Zed stopped off in Manhattan (in front of the infant of Prague in a Jesuit Church, get it?) to negotiate with the Gambino family concerning inroads into Madison. With the nearby city of Rockford and adjoining Winnebago County, Illinois up for grabs with with the passing of Frank "Gumba" Saladino in Rockford . "Trad" restaurants, fake brand name vestments and credit card scams, religious landscaping and EF church renovations and building contracts can begin to flood the Madison to begin the toehold. Also with constant tuning out of Francis, Zed hopes all Francis'references to the mob and the occult will be lost and/or easily dismissed, which you might have noticed are never mentioned--omerta.

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    1. Practice makes perfect. Start small time in Madison and La Crosse till you perfect the scam then move to Milwaukee for the bigger money. After that who knows!

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    2. Madison is less than an hour or so drive from a number of active sites. Some sort of "religious" house or shrine (to Catherine of Alexandria?) might open up soon--looking for places to dump all the hijacked (look for the expire date) cleaning supplies collecting dust in New York.

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    3. Yea, yea. Rockford, Milwaukee are international airports--Madison is only regional. It will initially keep the Feds off the scent till things get rolling and the bugs are out. Big increase in Clergy on Call signs.

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    4. Look for aluminum siding in odd (rose?) colors no one else wants.

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    5. Zed will only use the old holy water rite to bless the new mobbed up aluminum siding. (In Red: First comes the power then if I decide grace)Zed wants to see if he is more powerful than the non-direct liners. Zendo the Magician.

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    6. We will really have him nailed when he fronts the vending machine business. What? Vending Machines for canned drinks, mantilla head coverings for the girls small sized birettas for the lads, first communion gifts and cards, etc., all proceeds go to......

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    7. No, wait. Zed might go to Milwaukee or Chicago to throw everyone off into thinking he is working with the Outfit, although he knows nothing about chop shops. Zed's been taken in by New York's old time hockey conservative appearance; might have been shown the latest in 1950's retro vestments and hairstyles.

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    8. New York might also mean international contacts with EF's in Ireland--What? Gerry "the monk" Hutch. Ascetic hoods would be attractive to Zed.
      The Marquette blather was a possible red flag passport Great Lakes then back to Canada meeting.

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    9. Yea, yea. No "emo" mercy there. Just hard cold, translated from the Latin 19th century crap. Read all the latest on the oldcountry.com page. Let the laity get their asses kicked, need my hands without blemish for communion. I'll stay home and meditate, pretend I'm reading Latin texts for the sermon I never give. Skypiliot.

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  40. In the post on St. Catherine... Zed confused Catherine of Alexandria with Catherine of Siena as one of the 14 Holy Helpers. A reader commented and noted the error. Hours later, the comment is gone and the Holy Helpers reference excised from the post - but the eagle-eyed commentor did not merit a "Gold Star of the Day" as did two others on the same post!

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    1. What do you expect? He is exhausted from perusing the latest liturgical fabric shops in search of genuine "rose", eating, haunting art galleries, eating, criticizing church interiors, eating, drinking copious quantities of alcohol, eating, and......EATING.
      Now he is annoying some dentist for a freebie to get his tooth fixed. Gee, I wonder how he got a busted tooth. Could it be that teeth are not to be used like a garbage disposal?

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    2. Who knows what they put into the food when Zed is there. Bad for business!! (not the tainted food but Zzz).

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  41. Donation fatigue must be setting in seriously after the latest string of My-View-for-awhile gourmandizing, imbibing sybarite excursions. Lacy Boy is back at suggesting four methods of topping up his snout-in-the-piggy-bank-trough. Here's two of them:

    Donations, PayPal, alternatives, and you
    Posted on 28 April 2016 by Fr. John Zuhlsdorf

    Some of you of late have asked via email about alternatives to giving via PayPal.

    1) To set up a recurring, monthly donation via PAYPAL (even a small one) go to the bottom of this blog and look for the drop down menu. PayPal has worked well so far. There is also a button on the side bar near the top of the blog’s page. Feel free to use it!

    2) I set up a CONTINUE TO GIVE account, which functions rather like PayPal (or so I understand). I just set this up, so it is new to me. I am not sure yet how well this works.

    I have information and links about Continue To Give on the right side bar (scroll down). There is a QCode you can use with your smart phones. Try it!
    Also, to receive a link to donate via Continue To Give using your smart phone. ........"

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  42. Fr Z seems to want another twenty-five years of living, but, unless he adopts an Orthodox style and times of fasting, his desire may be difficult, if not impossible, to achieve.

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  43. Another Mr Ed award winning rerun with approving nod from Wilbur:


    Dr. Edward Peters says:

    29 April 2016 at 1:10 PM


    “Even if the Pope were Satan incarnate, we ought not to raise up our heads against him, but calmly lie down to rest on his bosom.” I’m sorry. I don’t care who said it. I’m fed up with pious nonsense begin passed off as profound verities. Let this quote from one of my all-time most favorite saints (if you have not read Undset’s bio of her, do so today!) remind us all that great holiness is still possible even for folks who, at least once in their glorious lives, said something stupid."

    [Amen.]

    Fr. Z's Gold Star Award

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    1. Even if Peters is as banal as he sounds we should not out of charity engage his legal knowledge.

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  44. And the galoot says liberals have no sense of humor!

    PostCatholic says:
    29 April 2016 at 9:53 PM
    I will keep the prescription in mind if I should ever meet Lucifer in the flesh. Or the Pope. I doubt they’re the same being.

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  45. Has Father D finally read amoris laeTITia?

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  46. Get your tickets to Wisconsin now! The Airship is celebrating Cinco de Mayo on the Throne! Be sure not to miss the Homeschooler Chorus and the Guys with Capes, Swords, and Manly Hats!
    Look at those HUGE NUMBERS in the congregation! (Ladies in the back, please.)
    Watch the Surging Seminarians, the Splurging Zombies, the Purging Ordinary, and the Urging Amazonian Wishlister IN ACTION!

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    1. If this isn't a "Pontifical Mass at the Toadstool" then I am not going.

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    2. ^^^^^You are a dumb fuck...smfh

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  47. And watch for the Knight flashing the sabre from on the back of Mr Ed the Canonical equine.

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  48. Lay-Z-Boy, PhD (pending) is an ad-junk professor at Starfleet Academy!
    Course title: Beaming Up Jesus
    Astronaut self-communicates in space:
    "With the help of his pastor, Fr. James H. Kaczynski of the St. Mary Church in Texas, he got special permission from the Archdiocese of Galveston-Houston to carry 6 consecrated hosts (which can be split into 4 pieces each) in a pyx into space to consume once a week while on the International Space Station."

    The best solution is to bring me into the space program and I will say Mass for them and conduct zero-g spiritual exercises.
    Get Zed on that astronaut treadmill. Watch those man-boobs in zero gravity!

    At first, Zed sounds circumspect:
    ...it used to be the case that men set out to voyages at sea for months at a time and then went to ports where there were no Catholic Churches. They didn’t bring the Sacrament with them, to self-communicate. So, was this a good idea to do? I don’t know.

    But then we get to the real reason:
    These days, some people have it in mind that they have to receive all the time. [Clearly sinful considering the number of people who don't GO TO CONFESSION] I’m not judging them, but we are not obliged to receive but once a year.

    This comment must be a joke, right?
    Marcus der mit dem C says:
    To split the Sanctissimum in zero-gravity? What shape would be necessary for the communion patene to prevent parts of the Sanctissimum to drop elsewhere? How many deacons are necessary to purify a ISS?

    And this is a joke too, right?
    Suburbanbanshee says:
    Marcus- If one cracked each Host inside a sealed Zip-Loc, no crumbs would be able to escape. (And they may have been packed already fractioned.) Heck, you could even have a pyx packed with a Zip-Loc lined with gold Mylar film, and that would take care of the precious metal requirement.

    How strong is EWTN's signal?
    Gerard Plourde says:
    Does the article mention whether the astronaut will have access to a televised Mass on the Sundays he is in space? If that were the case, then he would part of the community’s worship, making him in a sense an anchorite.

    Sure, NASA's full of nerds but let's not rub it in, ok?
    APX says:
    Fwiw: In the very early years of consecrated virginity, following their consecration, the newly consecrated virgin was given a 7 day supply of the Blessed Sacrament to self-communicate. Kind of like a type of a more personal consummation of the consecration.

    Capri Suns!
    anilwang[!] says:
    It’s unclear that self-communication happened.[Can't a guy get some privacy up there?]...I don’t see how consecrated wine would ever by allowed since droplets are even worse to catch and placing them in some sort of a “juice box” wouldn’t work for both because of sacrilege and because wine would still exist within the “juice box” and it would have to be disposed of properly by a priest.

    Don't forget to/the Scruple Spoon
    Geoffrey says:
    I hope they brought an ablution cup.


    It goes on and on...and on and on...

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    1. What if it's not true that they brought the sacrament with them. Could it not be they set it up as a scam to find out if there is a Zed simpathizer at NASA?

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    2. Oh snap! Platinum Maltese Cross of the Day Award for that astute thinking Reverend Father.

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    3. This was one of my all time favorite comment threads on Z's site (canonical, theological and liturgical issues of self-communicating in outer space). Where are you Jesus when we need you? Protecting the Lord of the Universe in a zip lock bag and juice box. Thank goodness for technology and plastics. Hysterical.

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    4. ...I think Zed is moved from a slow news day to a slow news month(s). The same topics keep coming up. They were enough to keep him with the in crowd in the "sem" but are sort of banal in 2016. I could say wait until faculties or celebrets make the rounds again, but those are a bit too warm for open discussion from the non-Italian Milan Tridentine society.

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    5. Rituals were required for parish priests only in the 14th century, which would have nothing concerning space stations.

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    6. As they say, there are gaps (spaces) large enough in Zed's reasoning to drive a truck through.

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  49. Another star award for the Lacy Boy as he vents against a 'fraud' wannabe guest chaplain at the US Congress all the while missing the irony of having a telephone pole in his own eye. Get the snivelling nostrum from his favourite Genghis Khan Katholik Bill Donohue with, of course, the foot-in-mouth cyber shouts in red:

    Bill Donohue comments on an atheist group suing the U.S. House chaplain:
    Thursday, May 5, was America’s annual National Day of Prayer. So of course the anti-prayer Freedom From Religion Foundation (FFRF)
    Brass Ass fails to see the pot hole in this road:
    '[These goofs are based in Madison.]'
    chose that day to sue the chaplain of the U.S. House of Representatives. FFRF president Dan Barker is upset that House chaplain Father Patrick Conroy, a Jesuit priest, has declined to invite him to deliver a non-prayer “invocation” on the House floor. FFRF also named House Speaker Paul Ryan, along with several members of Father Conroy’s staff, in the lawsuit.
    Remarkably, Barker invokes his ordination as a Christian minister 41 years ago to justify his request—even though he later renounced God and proclaimed his atheism.

    More moralistic caution from the 'spiritual gymnast extraordinaire: '[I fear for his soul.]'

    Noting that House rules require guest chaplains to submit a valid ordination certificate, FFRF states that “Barker, who was a Christian minister for 19 years, retains a valid ordination, which he still uses to perform weddings.” Really? Do those he marries know that he has renounced the Christian faith for which he was ordained? In short, do they know that the man is a fraud?

    Lacy Boy moralising after the fact of his own financial false pretences: '[I suspect he gets paid.]'

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  50. Hey, Let's all go and vote in Zzzzzz's poll on exorcism. Just what young people today need. More gobble-de-gook about the devil and possession. This guy really should have been born in the middle ages.

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    1. It's Zed's way of showing "the theology everyone knows already," and he by self appointment has been dean. Thus he doesn't have to attend the course in Rome on exorcism--no doubt he can say he is broke again spending all that cash in New York restaurants.

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    2. It would seem Molino has given permission to Zed to treat this most sensitive of topics. Or has one comment put it awhile back Molino doesn't read Zed's blog--Could Zed not be fishing be find out if Molino does read his blog by his outrageous antics. In Red: Any bishop who reads my blog for 3 years I will be incardinated in his diocese--except Chicago.

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    3. Witchcraft mentality, he can't hide it.

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  51. So the state now determines validity of orders? I'm so confused.

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  52. I read some time ago that one of the krazies was ordained into 24 different traditions. (either because fear or guaranteed salvation like Zed) Wondering if anyone knows if he has a blog.

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  53. .....if Barker (odd name, no?) was ordained in Italy, the paperwork will be long in coming.

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  54. Yea. Zed is fishing for the job in Chicago, but Cupich keeps avoiding him. The Laity in the Chicago exorcism course needs their bishops permission--but Zed's paperwork is still lost in some chancery in Italy.

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  55. Zed is complaining about his old pal, Fr. Bruce Hugalot. Zed never forgave him for stealing chancery stationary and assigning Zed to chaplaincy at Raging Queen Institute. It was posted on the bulletin board and Zed knew he wouldn't get a parish, but was really assigned sick leave later on.

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  56. More vicarious antiquarianism and asceticism from afar by Lacy Boy the entrepreneur:


    “It seems that Oratories are springing up all over the place.
    I wonder…
    … if there are traditionally-minded priests out there who might be having a tough go of it in their respective liberally-minded dioceses who have thought about banding together to form an Oratory.
    I wonder….”

    One thing people won't be left to wonder and that is, if and when the Sybarite would ever attempt to join an Oratory!

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    1. Zed wouldn't want to be a real Oratorian. He is negotiating for a job where he just sits around all day blogging (on Oratorian subjects now!) and waits for members having difficulty to stop in for a chat. (all you need is a smile) This way when the superior asks him to do something, he will always be jammed up with mucho (without credentials) counseling. There is a slight blip in the screen though, Zed is still researching on the internet how often Oratorians go out to eat, and if so, do they permit opening a Oratory on the premises.
      To dislodge previous patrons, who might be liberal Catholics, or even worse Independent Catholics, all dishes on the menu will have parenthetical religious names,such as St. Catherine of Alexandria turkey club sandwich. Those who order parenthetically are in, those who do not are made to wait until they leave, or if they look like they are loaded with cash, merely glared at for a minute or two, then happy faced by all the staff into the true faith. Candy birettas--the idea stolen from one of Bruce Hugalot's peyote voyages--will be placed on complimentary birthday cakes for patrons.

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    2. Yea. We worked that scam a while back. I had 3 of my liberally minded associates to join a traditionally minded organization. We were all greeted with open arms, once we found out who the asshole was in the organization we said we were leaving because of him. By the way, we found out Zed is not highly regarded in some trad organizations that are mobbed up, which prefer an extremely low profile, ugh!--not even a fake smile is allowed, much less Adams Family Collection vestments.

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    3. To leave a "liberally-minded diocese" to form an oratory would mean that you wouldn't stand and fight, therefore your ordination would be valid but illicit because of lack of guts, (lat: sec gonadus) which is ontic self mutilation, an impediment to ordination.

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    4. Zed may send a few pdf's to Morlino, to let him know that if things don't improve and WE get what we want, we will start oratories right on the dividing line of the diocese; half on half off.
      They will then spend 3 years in another diocese and be incardinated into it, unless they don't get what they want there; then they might move to the other end of the house for 3 years and be REINCARNATED into Madison. Also Zed canonists are researching the question if they make a telephone call to Milwaukee and don't hang up for 3 years, might they be incardinated into Milwaukee. (There was a slight mishap in Marquette, because Doerfler has purchased RapcoHorizon BLOX phone scramblers for the chancery).

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    5. Canon 268 #1 says 5 years. But mobbed up restaurants usually don't last the full 5.

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  57. An update to the bullshit: Lard Ass claims that he got his info from a 'press release' from the diocese of Bournemouth in the UK, there by big-noting himself as the international journalist.
    It had been published on the Fr Ray Blake blog. That's where he got the story!

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  58. Zed is not a joiner, as you can see from his blog, he is a leader. People don't notice a worker, just those that give the orders and pretend they are not giving orders beyond their competency--sort of like middle management who give orders. A mixture of strict scare the shit out of you pre-Vatican II presbyters are equal to the bishop kind of guy and a goody-two shoes, happy face see how much I do for you I know all the angles see how happy we can be kind of guy. In either case he is the boss. You might see any one or another of the manifestations depending on where he picks up your demeanor initially. (He is becoming aware of the pot-smoker who sells maniples door to door, so don't use THAT scam). The easier of the two is the EF scam, because his blog is telling you how to run the scam from the getgo. The so-called liberal priest scam can be worked by just watching 1960's biker movies on YouTube.

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  59. Hugalot was a classmate of Zed's--both so ultra conservative they didn't even like each other. Then while getting half hammered on homemade Courvoisier, each promise to enlist as chaplains in the military--unfortunately, Zed punked out and only Hugalot went to Iraq.

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  60. Enough about Father Z ... what about Father D? Loyal readerettes like Auntie wanna hear from him.

    Has Vladyka Eureka of Topeka instructed Father to stop blogging? Have Supertradmum and the Eponymous Flower kneecapped his knuckles so he can't type? Has Father D gone Tridentine?

    This post is accumulating comments like Father Z accumulates adipose tissue. What's going on?

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  61. Prick by Prick UPDATE!

    There is so much hot prick by prick action these days that Zildo can't keep up! He links to a formulaic, regurgitated copy/paste article on the EF:
    A lot of the piece is a review of the situation as it stands now, which could be helpful for people who are not as familiar with the state of affairs as regular readers of this blog probably are by now. But… do have a look…

    The Mass of Zorro must be so busy these days he had time to highlight only one sentence: The Latin Mass of years gone by is becoming more popular again. (statistics forthcoming) The article mentions how Summorum Pontificam (2007) is LIGHTING A FIRE out there.
    http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/05/09/celebrating-latin-mass.html

    Are you sitting down? Then where are your hands! Hands above the table:

    Kate[needs the]D says:
    "What I’ve seen is this steady progression……A good priest gets assigned as pastor. He starts bible study classes, the tabernacle returns to it’s rightful position, a crucifix is installed on the wall behind the altar. One old lady up front starts wearing a head covering….and recieving on the tongue….and it spreads![YOWZA! But KateD is just getting warmed up]
    "...and then they start becoming nostalgic for the old hymns…..and then men start participating more in serving, and boys replace girls as altar servers….and then….and then….the incense returns…..and they start singing the Gloria"
    "It’s a beautiful thing. Holy Mother Church will get there."

    Anyone got a light? KateD needs a cigarette.

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  62. "becoming more popular again?" It was never less popular previously. Also is Kate (needs the D) from Kansas? There's no place like home, there's no place like home. And I hope she means "they" start singing the Gloria and and Van Morrison and Them.

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  63. So one of the questions over at Z is about whether a mass was valid. Apparently, the priest skipped all the beginning parts, called his family up and read the gospel while sitting down with a baby on his lap???? Are these real questions? As a cradle Catholic now in middle age, I wonder why I have never seen any of these things. Never saw a clown mass, never saw a priest read the gospel with a baby on his lap. The closest I got to odd liturgy was the 6 PM Sunday Mass at Gesu in Milwaukee: never longer than 30 minutes and the priest spoke in tongues, but it was a big Church and always packed. Gosh, Z is either making these things up or grossly exaggerating them. Busy sowing discord.

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