Sunday, June 22, 2014

WEDDING KISS


Okay.
What do you say Fathers?
Yes or No? Why or why not? 
Keep it brief please.
I have only seen such a "first kiss" occur during the Mass itself once in about fifty years. I thought it not appropriate at the time and still do. 
Other times, after the sacred liturgical rites have ended, in both Latin and Eastern Rites I have seen the bride and groom introduced  "for the first time as Mr. & Mrs John Smith.." after which the couple exchange a brief, tasteful kiss to the applause of their family and friends as the recessional begins to play.

All that being said, I have never had a bride or groom ask me, "When do we kiss?" 

We see all kinds of things in life that we don't necessarily want to see.  In times of joy people are spontaneous.  I don't think clapping is appropriate during any liturgical rite, but sometimes it happens.  When it does, all we can to is redirect people back to the focus of of the rite with dignity and charity. 

Michael Voris cuts a rug at the wedding reception of one of his staff.
 Yes, its appropriate when it's spontaneous, and after the rites have concluded, final blessing imparted and dismissal given.

Lighten up.
Pull that stick out.

16 comments:

  1. Clearly the Lard of the Manor is getting twitchy about the low reading on his $ meter. Instinctively Zedperson has arced up with the old favourite of the vulnerable woman with gun, a classic piece of resentment gone ballistic in his a'Becket 'excommunication' scene.
    It is obvious to me that Zonka the Gink is barking mad paranoid about his confected public 'image' and monitors very closely the sources of scrutiny such as this one. He is at pains never to let on, except by very indirect references, that people are exposing him. The last thing he wants if for his one-eyed disciple to see him for what he really is.
    The wish list, the constant stream of $s and the unquestioned clerical entitlement are all that matter.

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    1. i actually got redirected to an ad site today while on his blog, mney must be short

      he also had a witch burning post today or yesterday were he makes fun of people being burned to death, then had a snarky comment in the combox for somebody who called him out on it. fr zuhlsdorf asking where are witches burned today - well fr zuhsdorf ive seen a video of 7 "witches" being burned alive in south africa. ive also seen a video of robbers and homosexuals being burned alive as well (dont ask why ive seen these) in kenya and south africa and seeing the horrific scene of people nearly being beaten to death and unable to move suddenly flail about uncontrollably in futile attempt to put the flames and once you think its all over and the flames finally going out having run out of gasoline to burn what appears to be the charred corpses suddenly reanimate sit up and let up horrific howls and screams before finally succumbing. real funny send them to bavaria.

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    2. This blog is so funny! Always lots of laughs ... as long as they're directed against people you hate (Fr. Z). Super-serious, though, when someone else (Fr. Z) pokes fun at someone. Hmmm, I guess it's all about hating Fr. Z. You guys are a piece of work, you is.

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    3. I'm pretty sure no one here hates Father Z or anyone else for that matter.
      Not about hate at all. More about free speech. Many of the comments here are from people who were banned by the great Z-Master. He's a bit sensitive when folkZzzz don't agree with him. As this is an older post, your comment was put into a moderation queue and even though your comment were not flattery, they were approved. Very unlikely to happen over there-- or at Hunwicke's and other such places.
      I'll direct you to the last two lines in this post and leave it at that.
      Lighten up.
      Pull that stick out.

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  2. "You may now kiss the bride" seems so anticlimactic, literally, since most couples have been sleeping together for months anyhow. Not only for its secularity is the old Carpenters' hit "We've Only Just Begun" inappropriate at wedding Masses!

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    1. Well, of course-- "you may now kiss" is not in the Black, so THAT's out.
      I agree. We've only just begun is out, even if chanted in the plagal fourth tone. But how do you feel about Love The One You're With?

      Well there's a rose in a fisted glove
      And the eagle flies with the dove
      Sometimes you can't be with the one you love, honey
      Love the one you're with


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    2. For the authencity required, why not Roberta Flack's "The First Time" with the appropriate verse:

      The first time
      Ever I lay with you

      Because everyone knows that precedes not only the Nuptial Mass but the Mandatory Marriage Preparation Classes (which may well be discontinued now that Pope Francis has declared torture to be a very grave sin ... Come to think of it, that pronouncement may mean the end of the Homily!)

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  3. Ahhh, Miss Voris. The self-proclaimed chastity slave. I would think that dancing would get him so worked up that it would be an occasion of sin. Oh wait. He is dancing with a woman. No problem.

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  4. ACTION ITEM: The Baptists are right! Whatever it was, it did lead to dancing!

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  5. Readerette here:

    I favor of a rephrase since it's so chauvinistic. Why shouldn't it be "You may now kiss your husband?" And it doesn't stand up to all weddings: "The husbands may now kiss." or "The brides may now kiss." calls too much attention away from the kiss. So I prefer the all-purpose, equal opportunity, standing on the side of love "You may now kiss each other."

    But I ain't catholic nor troubled in least by premarital lovin'.

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    1. Readerette,
      The problem is, of course, that the category doesn't match--when Father Z says its okay to kiss the girl all done up in lace….
      …he means himself.

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  6. Oh come on, EVERYONE knows that the ONLY kissing that should happen at Mass is when a boy dressed up in lace kisses the priest's hand and everything that the priest touches!!!!!

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  7. Hey now, Z has a stick somewhere and maybe he likes it there. Maybe his gun fetish is rooted in his insecurity about his member. Almost all the gun nuts I've had the misfortune to cross ways with pack their "heat" in the vacant place where an ordinary size "manhood" would occupy.

    Dr. Phyllis Zagano also a retired USN CDR has written a brief but complete article on priests and guns. http://ncronline.org/blogs/just-catholic/priests-and-guns

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    1. I think you are right 'Anonymous 1:51pm.' It is a scientific truism the nature abhors a vacuum so the gun fetish and obsession about the carry and conceal permit by the Brick-with-eyes is a classic example.
      It also illustrates again the validity of Freud's psychoanalytic theory of displacement. A Glock with a full clip down the front of the combat duds will always fill the lamented void.

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  8. I wish Dr Zagano would share the results of her "Waiting for Zagano" investigation.

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