Wednesday, March 26, 2014

EDUCATING THE MASSES: TAKING ACTION TOWARD ACCOUNTABILITY

 
Chancery Offices of the Diocese of Madison Wisconsin
at the Bishop O'Connor Pastoral Center

One of the most commonly asked questions I am asked about blogging priests is, "Father D, doesn't anyone hold these guys accountable?"

The answer is YES and NO.  While there is no one particularly assigned to oversee the blogs of priests (and deacons) when the occasion warrants, the said cleric's Ordinary can step in. (The Ordinary is the bishop or religious superior to whom the cleric owes obedience.)  Usually, the bishop will designate (deputize) a priest to act on his behalf, called a Vicar General.

Monsignor J Bartylla, Vicar General of the Diocese of Madison

One thing I have learned in my many years of maneuvering around the chancery, is that they (Bishops and Vicars General) do not like to receive phone calls, emails, letters or post cards about troublesome priests (or deacons) liberal or conservative, ordinary or extraordinary, Latin or Eastern.  

What do we do with this information?  Tune in later.

26 comments:

  1. There was a neo traditionalist deacon blogger in the UK who was told to stop blogging by his bishop. His site was called Protect the Pope (which stopped protecting the Pope the day Francis was elected and really descended into nastily and passive aggressively criticizing the Pope.). But why do we want to get the Zmeister in trouble? His site is needed for daily laughs.

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  2. To cause division and pain by snitching to the diocese (on what grounds?) appears counter to Pope Francis' call to reconciliation and mercy during Lent.

    Mercy is for everybody - even (or, better, especially!) our enemies.

    Taking the moral high road is always worth it.

    Let God sort the rest out.

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    1. Indeed it is always better to take the high road.
      Thank you for your words, which served as a mirror that I might see my own sins, transgression, flaws and character defects.

      Casting stones (with Zzzzz name on them) through the chancery window really does nothing to advance accountability.

      19 days left of before the Feast of all Feasts-- the Resurrection!

      Fast. Pray. (if you are a Christian) For Fr Z.
      Pray for Pope Francis-- What a blessing the Church, Christianity, and the world has received in this humble Bishop of Rome.
      Pray and Fast that the "Francis Effect" might trickle down to the bishops and priests.
      If you can spare a "Pater" or an "Ave" for "Fr D"-- I know he will be most grateful.

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  3. Anon, to me it's not a matter of snitching to the diocese as much as it is that the likes of "Z' and his supporters being mistaken for conveying the views of the REAL Catholic Church, the real church doing the work of Christ here on this Earth.

    In the spirit of Lent I pray daily for your Pope! I also pray for Father D (I'm certain that God knows his real name!).

    I've never been inclined to use this reference in the past, but to refer to Pope Francis as the Holy Father is natural, and in my Protestant mind worthy and truthful.

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    1. Perhaps the REAL Catholic Church is just all that and more. She is flawed in Her human ministers-- those ordained, and those lay.

      I have often said that I believe that the Church is big enough for a diversity of spiritual and liturgical expressions-- Eastern, Latin (Old and New) hymns ancient and modern, music of Gregorian chant or folk, or Renaissance Baroque.

      The Church IS the priest who stumbles out of bed at 3:00 am and put on his black shirt, so worn it looks charcoal grey, and goes to sit with a dying man and his family. She IS the priest who lives the life of a hermit, struggling day by day to please God through his works and prayers. The Church IS the angry professional blogging priest, desperately trying to instill his personal world view on the world. The Church IS the single mother, working two jobs to provide for her children. She IS the couple in a second marriage-- who think they can attend Mass, yet send their children to CCD. She IS the victim of clerical sexual abuse that can no longer bring himself to even believe in God.

      The Church, SHE IS, ALL OF US. Broken in our humanity-- with our weaknesses and our strengths. We are the Church, the Body of Christ in all its members and parts. We are, because HE IS, always has been and always will be. We are because of His Grace working through us, in spite of us.

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  4. I would do everything: letters to the bishop and V.G. (copies to the diocesan and local newspapers, and to local TV stations); details about where and when Z speaks and celebrates mass sent to those bishops/VGs (they have to give permission--especially--put the spotlight on Morlino for giving faculties to Z THREE YEARS after his Velletri-Segni faculties expired and were not renewed. Especially: search the Z blog for his support of Bp. Robert Finn, his bragging about carrying a concealed weapon, his foodie and birder shots. Make him public in every way you can!.And, the Wisconsin tax authorities and the IRS might take a look at his tax returns--the those of they who donate to him. Is is a tax-deductible organization?

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    1. i would avoid the bishop and stick to the vicar general. keep in mind der zuhlsdorf managed to find the most republican, esp. in economics, bishop in the entire USA (THE USA, not *these*) to hook up with but if the vicar general sees the embarrassing things he does, like the ammo fund and AR wishlist, i bet something will happen

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    2. I'm not sure, but I think that Pere Zed is somehow connected personally to Monsignor Bartylla. They are either personal friends or they belong to the same clericus that gathers annually for which Pere Zed does some of the cooking. Which he makes a big deal about of course.

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  5. Can't we just take a picture of him with the boyfriend he meets up with every time he's in Manhattan? (which is about once a month?)

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    1. Absolutely.
      You take it, I will publish it.
      Hypocrisy should be exposed.

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  6. Anonymous March 27, I don't think that the Z Blog nor Z himself is really big enough to merit state or IRS scrutiny. The Z blog itself IS NOT a tax exempt entity, it would naturally follow that contributions made to Z for its maintenance and Z's subsistence would not be deductible.

    With respect to Z himself it may be arguable either way.

    If I were to advocate Z, I would take the position that the funds sent to him by his supporters are in the character of "love gifts" which in this case, being directly presented to a member of the clergy and not via a church employer entity would NOT be taxable. [My experience is in dealing with taxation of protestant clergy though.... the tax code accords further "breaks" for Catholic clergy who are members of religious orders under a vow of poverty.]

    Against Fr. Z, I would be inclined to argue that since he is unassigned to any religious function of his denomination and that his blog contains items of personal and political interest that he is in fact in a trade or business of blogging and thus all his support would be taxable net of reasonable and ordinary business expenses.

    The IRS has been traditionally "hands off" with respect to the church, especially the mainstream established denominations. I wouldn't count on any help from the "tax man" with respect to Z.

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  7. lol this post made me chuckle :)

    i dunno i think his next gun post might warrant a telephone call, he actually made a few months back a cryptic comment that he himself was "under pressure" when talking the "direction" the pope is "taking" * rolls eyes *

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    1. The poor baby wanted everyone to know how hard it was to keeping Reading Francis through Father Z.. er Benedict. So donate to the amount fund will you because it is so much pressure.

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  8. There is a rumour that a canonical action is being launched against the owner of this blog. No kidding.

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    1. dont forget to donate, zuhlsdorf needs that $90 wine to entertain with on his next vacation to rome

      oh yeah he also needs a new AR-15 so better throw in a couple extra hundred, maybe a also a few gift boxes of 5.56x45mm ammo

      oh yeah also dont forget to buy the coffee, he needs the money he gets from his cut of that for his next food tourism trip in NYC

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    2. What could Fr. D be charged with? Promotion of Christian unity??

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    3. Why do I bet that Canon Law doesn't have a "blog" section?

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    4. Really Al ? A "rumor that a canonical action is being launched" against the owner of this blog?

      Seeing that I have lunch at least twice a week with my lawful superior who not only reads, but occasionally comments on this blog, I would be VERY surprised if that rumor were true.

      I can confirm that two separate cyber attacks were launched against the owner of this blog. One originated from Canada and the other from the Midwest USA. Neither were successful. While I am a complete techno-idiot, the folks who maintain my computer equipment also work for businesses and government agencies.

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  9. What happened to the "reading Francis through Benedict" theme? I notice Z has abandoned it. He's also instructed his followers that the "Biological Solution" meme (with its creepy--and obviously intended--echoes of the "Final Solution") is to be abandoned. Feeling the heat, chubby Johnny?

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    1. lol maybes hes too tired of making posts trying to read francis through zuhlsdorf

      as to the final solution (always really creep me as well, hoping for and celebrating other people to die because of their politics and religious opinions), where did he say that, comment section?

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  10. Has anyone else noted that Father Zuhlsdorf has started using the papal "we"? I'm not kidding. Look at this post from today:

    "We are pleased that the proper thing has been done, and sad about the sin committed which required such intervention."

    I have a sick feeling that he might have written that while dressed up as Pius X in a rectory paid for by parishioners in his diocese.

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    2. Oh my!

      We only use the royal We, when the voices in Our head are talking really loudly.

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  11. wow he is really in a rage today over the foot washing thing and being pretty disrespectful to the bishop of rome

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    1. Wow, there's more bracketed red emboldened zuhlsdorfian spew than original content in that post!

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  12. apparently somebody with authority talked to him since the ammo fund is now gone

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